Thursday, August 8, 2013

Cost Savings from Fermenting Feed for Chickens and Other poultry



By Justine -

I'm an accountant by profession. I am really good with numbers and enjoy breaking things down. I wanted to know what we were saving by fermenting/soaking our feed so I could share it with you all.


We fed dry feed for one week and gauged our total feed provided during that week. The next week we fed fermented/soaked feed.

These are the numbers:

Without soaking we would fill two feeders full of dry that would last 24 hours. Each feeder holds 2 scoops = 8 pounds of feed each. Plus one more scoop to feed the Silkies, and another for the chicks in the brooders.
Total fed was 6 scoops or 24 pounds a day.
Equivalent to 168 pounds of dry feed a week.
That would cost us $62.16a week to feed them. (Feed here costs 18.50 a bag = .37 cents per pound.)
Broken down further, that is about .28¢ per bird per week or $14.56 per year.

Weekly Costs to Feed Flock of 225 (Dry):

  • 42 scoops (168 lbs.)
  • .28¢ per bird
  • $62.16 in feed per week
  • Yearly Total: $3,232.32


Costs to Feed Each Bird (Dry):

  • .04¢ per bird/day
  • .28¢ per bird/week
  • Yearly Total: $14.56per bird 

With fermented/soaked feed we do 3 scoops of dry a day + 3/5 of scratch + 3 handfuls of BOSS = total cost of $35.98a week. We are saving $26.18 a week by fermenting/soaking it. (About .16¢ per bird per week or $8.32 per year.)

Costs to Feed Flock of 225 (Fermented):

  • 21 scoops (84 lbs.)
  • .16¢ per bird
  • $35.98 in feed per week
  • Yearly Total: $1,870.96


Costs to Feed Each Bird (Fermented):

  • .02¢ per bird/day
  • .16¢ per bird/week
  • Yearly Total: $8.32per bird

For us, fermenting/soaking means a savings of $1,361.36 a year!!!!

 
I’m excluding the grown birds being fed scratch in both scenarios, but to feed them 4 pounds of fermented scratch a day (one scoop) Costs us $1 a day (I am not 100% sure on the price per pound, but putting it at $15 for a 50 pound bag. I know it is less than this. I think it's $23 for 80 pounds, but again, not sure…  It doesn’t make our total savings by soaking it any different. However, it costs us a total of $36.98 to feed all of our birds a week. That is not bad! Not bad at all!

Note: We have at least 40 meat kings, 30 layer chicks, 21 adults, 2 geese, 1 duck, 20 Mottled Houdans that are 6-8 weeks old, 15 Easter Eggers that are 6-8 weeks old, 9 Silkies that are adults (in pens), 1 Margaret, 19 Rocks that are 3 weeks old, 20 Rocks that are 2 weeks, 15 bantams that are 4 weeks, 8 chicks that are 1-1.5 weeks, 16 Silkies that are 7-9 weeks, 5 Naked Necks that are 7 weeks, and 3 Sizzles that are adults in a pen (quarantine).

I had to write that out to make sure I didn't miss anyone. That brings our total to 225 birds. (HOLY COW.) I shouldn't have calculated that - LOL.

- Justine

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Leigh asks -

So tell us…
1. How many birds do you have?
2. What would your own yearly savings be assuming it would cost $14.56 per bird to feed dry or $8.32 per bird to ferment?

         (Number of birds in your flock X $14.56)
Minus  (Number of birds in your flock X $8.32)
      =               Yearly Savings


I myself currently have a flock of 40, therefore, 
 40 x $14.56 = $582.40
- 40 x $3.32 = $332.80
Yearly Savings $249.60
 
LOL – I am NOT an accountant and in high school I thought I’d never need to use basic algebra…
and now I'm using it voluntarily.

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Sunday, August 4, 2013

Update on the Cracked Egg

If you have not already read the story of how one of my fertile and developing eggs was cracked, you can read it HERE.

I should mention that while I don't feel the use of medical tape intervention to be "natural," I can only say that with such an important egg at stake, the tape worked.

And now what you've been waiting for...

Proof!!

 Poor little "Humpty Dumpty" is a little stickier than its siblings. When I removed the tape from the egg, the tape pulled a nickle-size piece of shell off with it. This resulted in higher moisture loss while the chick was hatching and some of the membrane dried on the chick.

 Group photo - Humpty is in the far right.



 A sibling... just because.

 And the other sibling. Aren't they precious?

I'm happy to say that mom is doing very well with her new babies. I should mention that Mamma (a Silkie X Bantam Cochin) turned 25 weeks of age only yesterday! Yup - she went broody at 23 weeks after starting laying at only 20 weeks of age. (She was given eggs that had already been developing for a week.) I have a feeling she's going to be a great mamma to a lot of chicks in her life...  The best incubators are the ones that peck when you try to candle the eggs!

So, that's the story of a cracked and dented egg. Luckily for me medical tape did a better job than all the king's horses and all the king's men did in the classic children's rhyme, and this story has a much happier ending!

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Saturday, August 3, 2013

The Story of a Dropped Egg - A Not-So Crushing Experience

I had 3 Swedish Flower Hen eggs in the incubator and all were developing nicely at day 6 when another of my girls went broody. Once I was sure the broody was broody to stay, I took the 3 'bator eggs out to give to her. That's when tragedy struck...

I dropped one! While it didn't burst open, it had a dent in it with  spider web shaped cracks running from it - - about the size of a nickel. Needless to say I was horrified as this was one of my first 3 fertile
Swedish Flower Hen eggs since I lost my beautiful Gunnar to an accidental poisoning when the neighbors had an exterminator out. (That's a story for a different day.)

I did what any less-than-sane chicken woman would do... took the egg back inside and stuck a piece of medical tape over the cracks and dent, and stuck it in the incubator. (I mean really - I wouldn't want it to burst under the broody and harm the other eggs, for goodness sake!)





I candled the egg the next day and to my amazement, saw movement in it!

That was 2 weeks ago. Today I went to candle the egg (due to hatch on Monday) and found an external pip! The tape was on part of the egg where the chick should zip, so unfortunately I had no choice but to remove it. When I did, part of the shell came off too. So, knowing that my own incubator doesn't hold humidity well and that in this predicament the chick would be likely to get shrink wrapped, I took it out and slipped it under the hen - and this time I didn't drop it!



(Perhaps one can see why I have been such a butter-fingers lately.)

Now I'm holding my breath in hopes that it will be able to successfully hatch even though the shell of the egg is compromised. I figure the moisture from the broody hen's body will help prevent shrink wrapping.

Needless to say, I'm quite amazed the egg continued to develop after its little accident.


I'll try to post an update when I know what happens!

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Oh - and if you haven't heard yet, there is a "Cutest Chick Photo Contest" over on the Les Farms FaceBook fan page. Check it out HERE. The winner gets a Brinsea EcoGlow!!! 

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Update - 7:50 PM EST, 08/04/2013:
I'm pleased to announce the chick from the broken egg has hatched. It is perfectly healthy and the new mom is taking great care of her 3 new babies.  Yippeeee! 

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Sunday, July 28, 2013

Weekly Country Shoot Out

Welcome to the Weekly Country Shoot Out! 

If you have farm and chicken-related photos you would like to share on the Natural Chicken Keeping blog, please email them to me at: shabbychicken@hotmail.com  
 
The following photos are courtesy of Justine Lewis of Les Farms


 


The following photos are courtesy of  "jlynnet"


The following photos are courtesy of  Katrina Reynolds


Photo courtesy of  "mlowen"

The following photos are courtesy of  "Sally8"

 
The following photos are courtesy of Tarja Saajamo




The following photos are courtesy of  Justine Lewis of Les Farms


Photo courtesy of  "armorfirelady"
 
The following photos are from Leigh of Natural Chicken Keeping


 
 
Leave us a comment and let us know what your favorite photos were this week!

May your week be filled with fresh country air and chickens!
 
 
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Thursday, July 25, 2013

Vent Sexing Chicks, Sex Links & Autosexing Breeds, Oh My!



By Leigh ~

If you’re here because you did a search for “Sexy Chicks,” you’ll likely be very disappointed with the following information. If, on the other hand, you are interested in poultry, sexing chicks and have questions like:

“Can I sex my own chicks?”
“I ordered all pullets but the hatchery sent me a cockerel too. Why?”
“Do I have to wait until they crow or lay an egg to find out which of my chicks are males and females?”
“Do male chicks and female chicks look different right from hatch in some breeds?”

…then you’re in the right place!


So – you want to know how to tell the gender of chicks. (And don’t we all?) Unfortunately for most breeds of chicken, there is not a simple answer. Yes – you can sex your own chicks if you know what to look for… and if you happen to have really good eye sight…

Vent Sexing
The beginnings of vent sexing – the art of looking in the vent of a day-old chick to spot a male phallus or the lack thereof - began in 1925 when three researchers at Tokyo Imperial University developed a workable method of identifying chick gender with high accuracy. It had long been thought that the sex organ of cockerels was not something visible, but Drs. Juro Hashimoto, Dr. Kiyoshi Masui and Isamu Ono proved that theory to be incorrect… for the most part. (Yeah – you knewit had to be a group of men out to disprove the theory that size doesn’t matter… but I digress…)

Cockerels do in fact have a (barely) visible phallus. You have to be quick, gentle and have really, really good eyes to see it. Unfortunately one can’t simply ask a chick to lie back on an exam table, relax and put their feet into stirrups for a quick look at their nether regions, so an alternative had to be developed. The following photograph from an educational bulletin, created by Thomas H. Canfield sometime in the 1950's,illustrates one way to hold chicks while vent sexing.




Wikipedia (Chick Sexing) offers the following for the proper vent sexing of chicks: 
  • “Before examining the vent, discharge the chicken´s excretions by lightly pressing on both sides of the abdomen in a downward motion.
  • Place the chicken on its back in the palm of your hand with the head towards you, put your thumb and first two fingers around its thighs to hold it.
  • Tip your hand so that the chicken´s breast is towards you, vent uppermost.
  • Place your middle fingers over the chicken´s breast to support the chicken leaving your thumb free. (If you have large hands, place the chicken´s head between your little finger and ring finger for additional support.)
  • Place the thumb of your other hand on the lower portion of the vent (anus).
  • Using the index finger start from the top of the vent moving down, back and around, rolling the vent in a sideways action.
  • At the same time a similar action with the free thumb, starting from the top and rolling down and back.
  • With the thumb and forefinger placed either side of the vent apply gentle pressure and a rolling action to evert the vent and expose the male eminence or lack of it (sexed as female). After a little practice this can be accomplished without injury or significant discomfort to the chicken.”

OK – so I’m not one to post an article like this unless I have at least tried it myself, and I can tell you… that first step is kind of important. On one hand I’d say “I couldn’t see $#!+,” but it wouldn’t be accurate. Truth be told, in that first try (sans step 1) the only thing I could see was poop.

Once the poop was taken care of, and after trying to get the hold just right on a squirming chick who was very vocal about questioning my intentions, I still couldn’t tell what the heck I was looking at. Yes – I was doing this outside by the coop. I can only wonder what the people who drove past right at that moment were thinking about this woman holding a chicken’s butt inches from her face…  (Oh the things one sees in the country…)

In theory the vent is supposed to look something like this:

Illustrator, Jean E. Hirsch (Canfield, 1950)

But all I could see was this:


And this:


And this:



Yeah – I still have no idea what genders my newest babies are… and I think their mother is considering filing charges against me.

According to the pros, holding the chick and opening up the vent are barely even part of the art of sexing. It’s like a painter learning to hold a brush. Learning to identify what you are looking at is the real Mona Lisa of the chick-sexing world… and in comparison my own attempts come off rather like feeble stick figures… of unknown gender.

The following illustrations by Jean E. Hirsch, found in a Thomas H. Canfield publication from 1950, shows a few of the possible variations in chick genitalia...  because heaven forbid it be as simple innie vs. outie.


Left: Cockerel       -       Right: Pullet

Illustrator, Jean E. Hirsch (Canfield, 1950)

After looking over these illustrations (and keeping in mind that these are quite a bit larger and less squirmy than the real things), perhaps we all have a better understanding of why hatcheries make mistakes. In fact US hatcheries have a chick sexing accuracy rate of about 70% on average. Needless to say, a chick sexing job probably does not pay too much more than a burger flipping job. (If you are a professional chick sexer, please leave me a comment if I am incorrect in this assumption. And yeah – after a dismal attempt to try sexing my own chicks, I totally bow to you as an artist and think you should be better compensated for your talent!)

I was lucky to find the following (much better) photos on a thread at Back Yard Chicken site found HERE.  
Pop Quiz! Based upon the illustrated examples above, can you identify each chick's gender below?

(The following photos were posted on BYC by al6517)
 

(The answers can be found at the end of this post.)

If you absolutely, positively have to have pullets…

You can thank Professor Reginald C. Punnett. For those of you who stayed awake through Genetics 101, you’ll recognize Professor Punnett’s name from the Punnnett Square. Luckily for us, this particular brainiac liked chickens and many of his findings on genetic variations came as a result of his interest in breeding poultry. He was the first to identify breed crosses that resulted in both Sex Linked chicks and Autosexing Breeds.

The Sex Link
“Sex link” does not mean two birds stuck together whilst breeding as my husband wondered, but refers to easily sexable chicks that result from a cross of two breeds. Upon hatch, Professor Punnett discovered that the genders of newly-hatched chicks could be identified by markings and coloration.

Black Sex Links (also sold under the name of Rock Reds) result from a cross between a solid colored rooster and a hen with a barred pattern. Most hatcheries use a Rhode Island Red or New Hampshire rooster and a Barred Plymouth Rock hen. All resulting chicks will have black down but the cockerels can be easily identified by a white dot on the head. At maturity the males will have the Barred Rock pattern with some red intermingled in the feathering while the hens will be black with some red in the hackles.

Red Sex Links (Also known as Golden Comets, Gold Stars and Cinnamon Queens) are the result of a variety of crosses.
Golden Comet refers to a cross between a New Hampshire rooster and a White Plymouth Rock hen.
Cinnamon Queens are a crossing of a New Hampshire rooster and a Silver Laced Wyandotte hen.
Other crosses that will create Red Sex Link chicks are a Rhode Island Red rooster over a Delaware hen or a Rhode Island White hen.
Red Sex Link cockerels will be white at hatch while pullets will be red or buff at hatch.

The sex-linked trait only shows up in the first generation of chicks. It is not possible to breed a sex-linked rooster with a sex-linked hen and get sex-linked chicks. If a person wishes to create their own sex-linked chicks, they would need to have some of the above combinations. (I have an extra Heritage Rhode Island Red cockerel who would be happy to “link up” with your hens… any takers?)



Read more about sex linked breeds at the University of Kentucky College of Agriculture, Food and Environment link found HERE.

Auto Sexing Breeds
The autosexing breeds are another of Punnett’s conceptions. Autosexing breeds breed true in that pure-bred birds can be sexed at hatch, generation after generation, based upon markings and coloration. Autosexing breeds are derived from breeds with barred markings crossed with other specific breeds. If you are serious about creating a quality flock of autosexing birds, you can refer to THISsite which lists the crosses that create autosexing breeds. From there, I would recommend finding the highest quality birds available from each breed (have I mentioned I have a really nice H/RIR cockerel up for grabs?)… and start your hatching. 

 (Photo courtesy of Justine Lewis of Les Farms)

While autosexing breeds are often developed from a cross between two breeds, one of Punnett’s own creations, the Cream Legbar, results from a careful mix of Araucana, Brown Leghorn and Gold Legbar. (It should be noted that the Gold Legbar is derived from a cross between the Brown Leghorn and the Barred Plymouth Rock.) The final result is a pretty bird that is a prolific layer of blue eggs, yet all the cockerels (easily identifiable at hatch) mature to be heavy enough to make a decent meal. You can see photos of the Cream Legbar HERE.


So… who knew you’d be getting a chicken sex-ed and genetics course all in one post? (You just never know what we’ll do next here on NCK!)

And if you haven’t already joined our forum, don’t be chicken! Join now! You can ask all kinds of chicken or homesteading type questions out there and get good, holistic advice and answers from people who won’t suggest the use of chemicals or antibiotics. Join our forum HERE.

Happy Thursday!

~ Leigh

Sources:
http://home.comcast.net/~terrychinn/poultry_sorters/WattsPub_article.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chick_sexing
http://www2.ca.uky.edu/smallflocks/sex_linked_crosses.html
http://www.harislau.info/autosexing-
http://www.autosexing.co.uk/
http://greenfirefarms.com/2011/01/a-new-years-revolution/

Photo Pop Quiz Answers:  Cockerel, Pullet, Pullet, Cockerel.

Leave a comment and tell us how you did on the pop-quiz!


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